too much money, you simply go to the wall in the end. and we are very, very conservative. and i will never, never put this company on the line. that will never happen. my chairmanship, which i expect will last for a good many years to come. >> well, thank you, sir. thank you for coming on and thank you for explaining it to us. and it is, indeed, true that we get a turn and nat goes much higher. but we need the turn. thank, sir. >> thank you, jim. >> he's the founder, chairman, and ceo of nordic american tanker. and look, if you believe in a turn, this is the one. but if you're tired, who can blame you. stay with cramer. still ahead, you plan, you play, you try to perfect, but can your strategy stand up to cramer's test? call, e-mail, or tweet @jimcramer to find out if your portfolio has what it takes in "am i diversified?"